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are we allowing people to die

at the altar of politics at the altar

of money and profit for big corporations

are we at the point where we're not

willing to listen to

physicians who people who have been

experts in their field

for decades because they are questioning

the establishment ideology and because

we're not willing to listen to them we

are allowing people to die

the reason that i did this video is

because i am very concerned not just

about censorship by big tech companies

about bias in the media as many of you

know that's my background i was a tv

news reporter for many years

i am very concerned that when it comes

to covid19

that there are potential options out

there for people that we should be

discussing that have been not allowed

at the table because they question the

establishment because

they question the politics and the

nature of the debate about this disease

and because of that we're all suffering

because we are not

allowed to access information that could

potentially be

life-saving for people out there who

need to hear it

this video is not about a cure for covin

19.

this is about a doctor who successfully

treated

patients with covet 19 talking about how

he was silenced

and censored uh by the federal

government dr brownstein could you real

fast just run people through your

background so that they know

your education and how long you've been

in practice so i'm a board-certified

family doctor i've been in practice 28

years

and i've been practicing in a suburb of

detroit west bloomfield michigan

and i started off practicing

conventional medicine for

six months or so and then realized i

didn't wasn't helping my patients

and i searched for a different way to do

things and really switched to holistic

principles right after that and

i've been pretty much doing that for the

last 28

years or so and written numerous books

and articles

and i read a newsletter and see patients

in a

busy office you do holistic

treatments but you are a medical doctor

you have an md went to medical school

you did residency just like

every other medical doctor i'm a

board-certified family doctor

and um i when i use the word holistic i

mean combining

conventional alternative medicine so you

know someone has pneumonia

i use antibiotics but maybe i'll use a

vitamin c

iv or something to help them lessen the

course of the antibiotics they have to

take

and you know use probiotics to support

their gut while they're on the

antibiotic

i use i use conventional therapies um

my goal is to try and figure out how to

help patients you know with their health

and achieve their health

something i wasn't really taught in

medical school but i was taught medical

school was

how to diagnose disease and how to

prescribe the drug to treat that

name that you give them and that kind of

brings us to where

you got into a little bit of hot water i

guess with the ftc

because here you are trying to

find a unique individualized novel

approach to

coven 19 when you had patients that came

down with it

and we're going to get into what

happened i guess a little bit later but

can we first talk about what you did so

you have patients

who test positive for this and um

this also was like back when

we're still kind of i mean we still are

trying to understand this virus but this

was

you know months ago when it was still

very new what did you do

and and tell us a little bit about your

study what you did

how these patients reacted to it you

know came to the us

first announced really in february i

guess um maybe the end of january in the

west coast

um seattle area as you know and

i was following it i was following it

from that first report in china when

they said we have uh

um a typical you know couple patients

with atypical pneumonia we think

is uh uh caused by a now a new virus

that humans haven't been exposed to so i

followed it from the beginning i was

blogging about it writing about it i've

been blogging for 20 years and

i've written 15 books um i read a

newsletter so i'm

i like writing and i like putting my

thoughts out there

and so colvic was coming you know it

hits the west coast first and then you

start to hear reports it's coming you

know

i think chicago might have been next or

something or you know

and you know we knew it was coming so i

had a meeting with my staff at the end

of february

and everyone's on edge

um you know the headlines were we don't

know what to do this is going to be the

next uh

19 what was it 19 i can't remember the

year 19 flew pandemic

18 19 18 19 18 flu pandemic you know

it's here and

you know we're gonna have one to three

million americans dead

um you know with the uh british model

that came out

and so i have a staff that's all

up in arms you know and and anxious

about it and so i had a meeting

after you know or at the end of our week

and i said to them

you know we've been practicing medicine

i've been breaking medicine for 28 years

i said in a few months now so i said the

first 28 years were practiced for this

very thing that's coming

and i said we've been treating influenza

and viral illnesses and

like illnesses um pretty much the same

way for over 25 years as we learn new

things

we might tweak it a little bit but the

formula has been pretty much the same

way

and our patients don't develop pneumonia

from it they don't get hospitalized

anywhere near the numbers that they

should you know you know every year we

have 20 to 80 000 americans dead

from influenza like illnesses according

to the cdc

our patients don't experience that and

anywhere near what the numbers should be

so i said to my staff

i think we we've got a good plan for

this i said i don't know for sure

because we never

treated this but i'm sure we've treated

other coronavirus infections since

they take up 10 to 20 of the influenza

like illnesses that we see every year

and again our patients do well so i

told the staff that you know we're going

to stay open through this

our patients are going to need us i said

my guess is most doctors offices are

going to close

and i'm working and i said

i hope you guys will work with me and if

you don't there's no

consequences to it i said i'm working

until i get sick or they won't let me

and so we started seeing patients and we

were scared we were going out to the

parking lot in march

in michigan remember detroit was a hot

spot with the

jersey detroit and um

maybe massachusetts right at the

beginning and

our hospitals ers were overflowing the

they were worries that the icus were

going to overflow and there wouldn't be

enough ventilators

and patients were dying left and right

the reports were coming fast and furious

if you get hospitalized and you get put

on a ventilator you're going to die from

this thing

so my partners and i were going out to

the parking lot we were

in in march which is cold snowy sleety

icy weather and we're in full gear you

know with face masks and

gowns and things and i remember you know

in the middle of a snowstorm shaking off

my head like i'm a dog trying to get the

snow to come off my face mask so i can

see the veins to put an iv in someone

from their car wow so when we started

doing it

i was scared all right you know my

partners were scared because

you know we didn't know if we were gonna

get sick i have asthma i have severe

scoliosis with lung involvement

i have no immunoglobulin a i'm the worst

candidate to get

you know a new viral illness or any

viral illness and

um so we start treating our patients and

you know lo and behold they responded

just as they have the last 28 years they

got better

and they call us up they can't breathe

they're scared they're dying

you know after a couple of treatments

one iv maybe and you know they've

nebulized hydrogen peroxide and iodine

they can breathe again that was that was

the routine story we were hearing from

our patients one or two

nebulized treatments and some oral

vitamins um

and so i was reporting it and i was

blogging about it and you know i would

do interviews with patients that got

better

and um these were our sickest patients

um

some were hospitalized before they saw

someone at our patients and referred to

us by other

doctors because they started to see my

pumps on it and

the stores were uniformly the same they

couldn't breathe they were worried about

dying and

their doctors are telling them there's

nothing they can do for them well

so we started doing the therapies and

work it was working we kept track told

my partners you keep track of

every patient we treat for this so and

especially when i saw it working after

the first couple so we're gonna write

this up and put this out there

so i was putting these interviews out on

my web page

my blog page and i was the interviewer

to the patient i would just ask them

just they told their story i was just

asking them

keeping them on task with their

questions you know tell me what you did

tell me when did you start to feel

better

you know how did you feel beforehand and

all that stuff and

so lo and behold after about a month of

that

and you know the day before i get a

warning letter from the ftc telling me

to cease and desist

my partner and i were playing tennis

through this whole crisis too

to get our get rid of our anxiety and

keep us sane

so we were driving home from tennis

after treating people

you know all day and going in the

parking lot a few times um doing ivs

i said to him um you know rick i've been

practicing 28 years he's a little bit

older than me

and i said this is the best thing i've

ever done in medicine rick what do you

think and he said

i got 10 more years i knew there's

nothing even comes close to this this is

the best thing we've ever done

and then i said to him you know one of

our death beds

one of us should say to the other one um

it was an honor treating kovic with you

and he looked at me and said absolutely

so the next day i get a letter from the

ftc telling me

that um and they went through all my

blog posts on kovit

especially the interviews and they both

pointed out things patient said and

things i said

and they said i never i never promised a

cure in any of those interviews

i said we were treating our patients who

had covet and they got better

and here's what we did um we were

supporting the immune system never

mentioned a cure for cold but i said

there's no cure vertical

this is this is supporting the immune

system which is really

the only thing that gets people over

called it is they their immune system

neutralizes and gets rid of the virus

that's why we've had

millions of people getting over the

illness so

i get a letter from the ftc telling me

because there's no preventive treatment

or cure for cobalt

because there's no human trial showing

anything you say

that relates to preventive treatment or

cure for covalent exists

you can't say that so you must stop you

have 48 hours to remove it

or else and you're following in

violation of federal code and they list

the federal code

has that ever happened to you before

just curious like with with every other

treatment you've done

anything like that before no nothing so

i i was shocked i get home from work i

didn't you know

i was tired but feeling good we had a

good day

my wife's looking over the computers i

walked in the door i'm like once i look

on your face

and she says you got a little a letter

from the ftc

holding my bags i got my coat on and she

said what does that mean she said

well i think we have to close the

website down you know close your blogs

and you can't do any more of those

interviews and

can't write about coleman anymore my

first commenter was maybe i should maybe

it's time to retire

and she said you're not retiring over

this letter this letter is wrong you

didn't do anything wrong

you're treating your patients as you saw

fit they were getting better you were

reporting it like what you should be

doing

and you want to retire because you're

tired of practicing medicine we'll talk

about that but you're not retiring over

this letter we'll get through this

so that was helpful yeah supportive

we shut the webs we took all the stuff

down for colvin and i titled all those

interviews um there's still hope out

there one two three four i think it was

up in the 20s

you know there's still hope out there

because there's no hope when i was doing

that stuff

it was nothing doctors had nothing to

offer them if they got in the hospital

and got an event they were 88

chance they were going to die well even

even now there's

still not a consensus on hope i i would

say even months later

people are still kind of you know

flailing around in the dark

so i was taught in medical school to

report your findings

report your successes report your

failures report what works report what

doesn't work

so other doctors can learn from your

experience that's what i did

and then i get that letter so i so i was

kind of like when i got the letter i was

in the midst of i was going to write a

study up because i was

our patients were doing well and you

know at that point i got the letter i

just stopped and i stopped for about two

weeks

and i tried to you know gather my senses

get

anxiety under control and figure out

what am i going to do here you know

the first in my family to get a federal

agency after that right and

i'm curious dr bronson when you're

thinking through all of this

is your mind going to could i end up in

jail

i mean where do you where does your mind

take you to worst case scenario if you

continue down the road of treating

people or talking about it

with this letter you should talk to my

wife because i asked her a bunch of

times am i going to jail for this

and um she's a lawyer and um

so yeah my mind went there of course i

looked up the law and there's big

penalties and

potential jail and they can take all

your assets they can

you know it's a federal government right

um it can do a lot to you

so after about two weeks of lumping and

you know letting anxiety get me i

decided i was

you know i decided i didn't do anything

wrong i'm treating my patients as i see

fit that's

what i was trying to do and you know

i've grown up a study and we have 107

patients in the study

um we had one hospitalization 107

patients and

no ventilators no deaths they recovered

much quicker than

the numbers that are out there and

reported that and our study consisted of

using some oral vitamins vitamin a c d

and iodine

nebulized hydrogen peroxide and iodine

and then if they were sicker they got

ivs

hydrogen peroxide vitamin c and

shots of ozone and therapy cost

200 bucks um you know i wrote it up got

a peer review

yep i actually have it on the screen

right now so people and i'll link it in

the description of the video

so people want to look it up for

themselves they can

um you know i i highlighted one part

in your abstract a novel treatment

program combining nutritional and

oxidative therapies was shown to

successfully treat the signs and

symptoms of 100

of 107 patients diagnosed with cover 19.

so you know here you are you have

something that seems to have been pretty

successful and like

nobody wants to hear about it or lots of

people want to hear about it but the

federal government's concerned about you

i mean

to you like as you're thinking through

this and you you say hey 100 of my

patients

responded positively but i'm not allowed

to talk about it that's got to be pretty

frustrating for you

so i published a study and anxiety comes

back to me right away because i figured

great now the government's going to

marshal with resources

against me you know a family doctor um

that lasted a couple of couple days i

let it go so we

went we sent a letter to the ftc the

same gentleman who signed the

warning letter and we said you said in

your letter because there's no human

clinical trials

um um showing what you say works

there's no preventive treatment or cure

for carbon 19 therefore you need to

remove it so we sent a letter we quoted

that out of the letter and said

well we now have a human clinical trial

and here's the trial we attached it

we'd like to post it to our website

without comment

and we got a letter back within 24 hours

saying

no it's not a randomized controlled

trial

therefore you can't do it now in my

study i say the reason we didn't do a

randomized trial was because ethically

and morally

if i would hold a treatment from a

patient that's sick that i think is

going to help them

how the hell am i going to sleep at

night right well i can't do that to my

patients and i wasn't going to do that

hope it was a new treatment

we didn't know what was going to work it

wasn't going to work i'm not going to

withhold anything

that i think might help them just as any

doctor wouldn't and look

the doctors in the hospital were fast as

well too doing their therapies you know

when the patients were dying i'm not

criticizing doctors here but i'm not

doing a randomized trial and not

treating patients with things that i

don't think works that's not who i am

so that's where we are right now with

the ftc

and you know i'm still silent on it and

um but

the positive part of this is i'm writing

a book called the hostic approach to

viruses because i found out

books have first amendment protection

even though i don't yeah it definitely

is a chilling effect i think

on the medical profession and

unfortunately it's not

i don't think getting enough attention

in mainstream media this sort of battle

uh behind the scenes of of medical

professionals who are

trying to get the word out about what's

worked or even just questioning certain

policies

and like for their entire careers have

been looked at

as experts in their field until now and

now it's like all of a sudden

if you question the establishment

narrative

you are thrown to the wayside almost

like this is like salem witch trials

2020. i've

i've never seen it in my lifetime but

granted i'm 38 and i don't really

remember

like sars and mers back 15 years ago so

i'm curious for you

is this the first time in your practice

that you feel like

people like yourself we've seen other

doctors the same things happen to or

kind of blowing the whistle on

say for instance ventilator protocol or

other treatments

who are like looked at as if they're uh

leading people to their death that

they're just completely

they're driving drunk or they're you

know going a hundred miles over the

speed limit like these people are just

reckless when in fact

they actually have something to share uh

have you seen anything like this

in your practicing uh career no there's

nothing like this this is

this is unique um i went through the ftc

list of how many warning letters they

sent i think it's over 300 now

i knew some of the doctors sent warning

letters like they were my friends i

called them

um you know they were shocked

um the you know

i was totally shocked when i got the

warning letter now i've had other

doctors tell me i wasn't shocked you

were out there

saying all this stuff you know i knew

you were gonna they were gonna bring you

in

or come after you might come after me

for what because i'm reporting what i'm

doing in my practice and patients are

getting better i

i was shocked i never thought that would

happen i've read this

you know i've read about other doctors

getting treated like this but

you know i guess it doesn't resonate

with you until that two by four hits you

in the forehead

and then you're you know you're amazed

and confused and trying to figure out

what

what the heck just happened but you know

this coven 19 is a new beast

and um i don't i don't understand why

it's happening i don't understand where

the journalists

are i don't understand why they can't

ask questions why they can't

you know get off the narrative you know

you watch

and it doesn't matter you can watch cnn

you can watch facts you can watch

you know from the left and from the

right these are totally opposite

networks they basically say the same

thing i mean there's a

little little difference in both

networks but you know

where's the was it the fourth estate is

that what the journals are

gonna keep us in track and keep checking

things you know

they've left us high and dry with us

yeah now we've got

now we've got a um you know basically

the narrative has been for copic

wear mask social distance quarantined at

home when we tell you to

and wait for the vaccine right and you

know we spend over nine billion dollars

on a vaccine

i mean you know it's coming i i hope

it's safe and i hope it's effective

but you know what while we've got

you know over 100 thousands right now

maybe there's some other therapies out

there that could help people and maybe

we should investigate them

maybe we should debate it maybe we

should talk about it well yeah and i

think that's that's

exactly the point here and that that's

really the point of this video i hope

people understand that you know one way

or the other i'm not necessarily trying

to push a particular medical treatment

i'm trying to give the voice to somebody

who's found something that's worked

and saying like if we are really honest

about

how new the virus is and that's what you

constantly hear and you will hear that

in mainstream media it's a new virus we

don't know we have to be very careful we

that's why we have to shut down the

economy that's what they'll tell you you

got

you know we can't have we have to have

millions of people out of work because

we just don't know

well if we really don't know then

shouldn't we be allowing lots of variety

of voices at the table it just doesn't

seem to make sense to me that we have

monolithic uh voice you know

in mainstream media or anywhere else in

the medical profession when we're also

admitting that we don't know anything

about the virus so see

things seem to be sort of at odds with

each other

when i get asked and i've done a few

interviews um

when i get asked about it i would say

talk to the patients they'll tell you

you know

they would tell you they were on they

were interviewing like i'm doing with

you i was the interviewee at that point

and you know trying to give people hope

out there that there were things to do

and there is help out there

you just can't hear it through the noise

and you know the whole

hydroxychloroquine

um mess is you know it

epitomizes this too now i didn't use

hydroxychloric when it's part of my

study

so you know what do i say about

hydroxycholine my answer is i don't know

i didn't use it for my study i've used

it for 25 years for other things

it's very safe when it's used

appropriately um do i think we should be

firing er doctors who talk about her

success with hydroxide

airplane

you know what's happened to our country

i find it very odd

and i've i've seen other journalists

thankfully agree with this so i know i'm

not totally crazy

i find it very odd to see journalists

calling for censorship i

i think we're at a place in history

where

there's probably a lot of uh fear

i guess because of the access that now

the public has

to information whereas before like

mainstream media was

the you know beginning and end of your

options for

where you were going to get your

information and now you have youtube

like we're

on right now or other social media

platforms but now you have this

collusion

between media big tech companies

sometimes the government and and they're

kind of

at the rate at which people are able to

access information they're trying to

suppress what they believe

is outside the circle of acceptable

ideology and i will say that like i did

another video on my channel

which just goes to show the hypocrisy

one of my videos was on

uh the protest the economic protests

that people were

engaging in across the country regarding

the shutdowns due to covet 19 saying hey

we should open back up

that was demonetized on my channel as

harmful behavior

those those protests even though i never

heard of anybody getting shot and killed

at those protests they never shut down

you know

entire blocks uh for emergency medical

crews to get through and then a few

weeks later i do

a video on the chas chop in seattle

because we're from the pacific northwest

i drove into seattle to see it for

myself

and that protest was totally fine that

was not youtube did not find that to be

harmful content whatsoever even though

there were several people who were shot

and killed

they had cut off the entire you know

like uh blocks

of the city so it's like even you see on

youtube

one thing that they determined to be uh

you know harmful behavior is it's it's a

protest

it's people to get you know the same

kind of deal this one you know in chess

chop they were all living in the same

space not just there for an hour so

um and that wasn't harmful and so that's

why people start to get very skeptical

and i think it's unfortunate because

like

i i think even the media is trying to

like suppress the skepticism instead of

just admitting that

like hey hang on a second there's

probably reason for

people to to be concerned that they're

not getting the full story here and

that's why i wanted to talk to you

because

here you are like this guy who's trained

just like every other medical doctor

you've tried other treatments that have

worked you're

you're going down a path it's helpful

and hey if what we want is for people to

get better and to survive this

why wouldn't we want to talk to you and

that's to me that's where this all

ends up and that's the greatest concern

for me is that are people needlessly

dying because folks like yourself are

not getting the chance to speak up and i

think that's that's the responsibility

that you were talking about sleeping at

night i think there are people out there

that

should really be wondering if they

should be sleeping at night because they

have been disallowing people like

yourself to the table

it's terrible and you know you missed

you missed a big factor in your

uh started this analysis you said

government

um the media there was a third thing you

said

big tech big tech well big tech you

shouldn't mention big pharma because

big pharma is controlling our

legislatures controlling

the airways they they're more

advertising and all the new shows and

all the shows on tv anyways

and you know they want nothing more than

to have

billions of people on the planet have to

get this vaccine that's going to come

forward

like i said i hope the vaccine is safe

and effective but

until we have a vaccine that's safe and

effective what are we going to do we're

just going to watch people die or

just lock us in our homes and you know

tell us about the mask and social

distance which

you know we've done so well with that

you know

up to now um so i think it's a sad place

we're in

um the um you know

just i'm just disappointed disappointing

the whole country and disappointed

and our leadership from the top to the

bottom

and um everyone seems to have left us at

the altar that's what i think that's

just

you know what's happened to our country

and where we're gonna go from here but

um unless we make a statement that we've

had enough you know you're right about

the skepticism

that's why people are looking elsewhere

um

you know that's why you know forty

percent are going to follow donald

trump president trump off a cliff no

matter what he says because they're

irritated everyone's irritated and you

know

you know perhaps rightfully so because

you know

how do you trust the information that's

coming out there you know i that's what

i've been blogging about that

i went to medical school i was as

straight as an hero i

never took a vitamin in my life before i

became a holistic doctor

i didn't grow up in a holistic household

we went to the doctor we

listened to the doctor we didn't

question the doctor we took what the

doctor prescribed us and that's how i

grew up that's what i wanted to do in

medicine

and then i realized six months into it

these drugs aren't working like i was

taught in med school people

aren't getting better on them there's

got to be a better way out there and

you know these drugs are actually

causing problems even more drugs to

prescribe for those drugs so

how do i support people how do i build

up their health how do i make them

healthier

that's what led me to holistic medicine

and that's what i've been writing about

my newsletter my books you know my blog

posts and

um

you know you know remove it or else

real fast i wanted to take your

attention to the editorial that

uh talks about your study and this is in

science public health policy and the law

uh and i'll have a link again to that if

people want to read it

but they make a good point um

fart it's this is a quote for far too

long

evidence-based medicine has undervalued

and sidelined

real-world clinical evidence which is

rich in detail that can and should

inform decisions at the individual

doctor-patient

level and that's essentially like what

you are offering

i guess to the to the discussion about

how to

deal with coven uh why i guess do you

think and i don't know maybe there's not

an easy answer to this but why do you

think

that in an era and with a virus where

all we really have right now is this

exact

like real-world clinical experiment

right it's like it takes a long time to

do

you know years worth of following people

and research and all that stuff and so

we this is what we need to go with right

now right i mean you would think that

that's that's what we all we have uh why

do you think people are so resistant to

it why is the medical community so

resistant to it why

why why is the media so resistant to it

as far as the medical

community the medical community has

never been easy to

change you know there were stories go

back to several ways from the 1800s

where

he was a doctor who worked at a public

in a private hospital in europe

and in the public hospital women at

childbirth were dying

i don't remember the exact numbers but i

think they told more

than women in the private hospital so we

did a study

and so at the public hospital

the doctors were doing autopsies and

delivering babies

at the private hospital they weren't

doing autopsies so he felt the doctors

were transferring something from the

dead bodies

to the women delivering babies which

made them sick and they died at huge

rates

so he put a bucket of water between the

beds and doctors dunk their hands in the

water

for i believe 60 minutes 60 seconds and

then deliver the babies so they wash

their hands before they deliver the

babies

the maternal sepsis rate went down

to the to the other hospital to the

private hospital

so he wrote an article and said back to

washington before

delivering babies for that heresy

he was thrown out of the medical society

he couldn't practice medicine anymore he

wouldn't

put him in an insane asylum and he died

a broken man so it took doctors 30

to 40 years to wash their hands before

delivering babies and surgeries

you know and during that time they said

it was all nonsense so

medicine has never been easy to change

and but that's why

we have debated medicine and we have

published studies and you publish your

findings

and you can talk about it now that's

slow to go but that's how it goes in

medicine

um you know with this thing this is

different though this is um

you know you're like you said you know

in

trying to publish things you know it's

it's not so easy and

um you know the hydroxychloroquine is a

perfect example of that

and i don't understand why we can't

debate it i don't understand

that you know henry ford hospital in

detroit which is a

conventional conservative organization

publishes a study that's

50 percent less depth with

hydroxychloroquine

when they used it so they just applied

to the fda for use of hydroxychloroquine

and culvert and the fda said don't

i don't understand where this is coming

from i mean this is just

unprecedented and it should stop and

it's

you know unless we the people stay you

know we've had enough and make our

voices heard you know

it's going to keep going it's going to

steamroll us right yeah and how and how

does that happen i mean

it just again like i said earlier in in

our chat

i've seen journalists for the first time

or i guess not the first time but i've

never seen it to this degree

calling for uh lockdown on information

where it's like wait a second i thought

we

i thought we were like the the the

bearers of um

you know the the first amendment that we

were like we were supposed to be calling

for there to be even if

even at the risk that something bad is

said

like to me i like the risk of the good

stuff being withheld is

is is works like i would rather take the

risk that

every once in a while somebody says

something that then okay eventually

arguments

come to the table to to decide hey it's

it's invalid

i'd rather take that risk than the risk

that good stuff never makes it disable

and

not just journalists but scientists i've

talked to like i've seen as i've posted

about

free speech on my other social media

channels

having scientists say you know you're

you yourself as a journalist are doing

harm to the people who come to your

channel who follow you

because you're you're just letting them

read anything

like you're just letting them see any

and here i am like well first off

shouldn't people

get to make decisions for themselves in

the united states of america like

shouldn't we

allow for people to to not necessarily

need us

as the babysitter and then secondly how

can a scientist or a journalist or

somebody in in a field that like you

brought up that study which i

read about because i just had a baby a

few months ago and i remember reading

that exact

that exact case um how do people in a

field that

should know the consequences of calling

for

punishment censorship of new ideas

because there is a long precedent of

that as

a very real danger why why in this case

would they say no

this time we really need to have a

lockdown this time we really need to go

after doctors this time we need to go

after scientists

like didn't we learn from these previous

cases like the one you just brought up

that oftentimes it it the new ideas are

looked at skeptically and then you know

punished and so in in 2020 we shouldn't

be

calling for which trials of people who

are

bringing forth new information about a

virus that frankly we don't know

anything about it's just to me it's

bewildering i do kind of wonder if

everything post-trump has kind of become

this way that

we're we're seeing a politicization of

weird things that before had never been

politicized

uh simply because of the climate we're

in i i don't know i don't have a good

answer but to me the the ultimate danger

is that if

you should be able to seek a treatment

that you want as an adult in the united

states of america and if

you've got something that works for

people you should be able to tell people

about it so they can seek it if they

want it

i would agree with you and um you know

look i didn't start off my medical

career thinking

i was gonna go in a different direction

what i was taught i

thought i was gonna move along that

direction well things change

and things change in medicine every day

and things should change in medicine

every day otherwise

we'd be sitting there bloodletting

everybody for every condition and hoping

that it worked

so you know as far as my colleagues go i

think that

you know i i heard from a lot of doctors

around the country

you know especially in new york and new

jersey or working in those hospitals

when people were dying they were

they were devastated they were they

wanted different therapies they knew

what they were doing wasn't working

they didn't know what to do um so i

think i think that

it's it's it's the problem

we've got right now and i you know i'm

worried for you know the future of our

country and one for my kids

who are you know both in medical school

and one graduated and one's in medical

school

worrying about them just being younger

again you know what's this country going

to do

and when you say how did this happen you

know it happened because

they feared us enough that we were

willing to do anything we were willing

to stay in our houses for three months

whether it worked or not you know it

could be another debate but

you know they made the fear so high that

if you were going to get this disease

you were going to die

there was no therapy offered until we

can come up with a vaccine

therefore you need to do exactly what we

tell you so that's been the message

since the beginning of this illness

and that hasn't changed much well

there's other doctors talking about

hydroxycholic when vitamin a iodine just

you know my study was that stuff you

know

and ozone and hydrogen peroxide um

so how do we change things well i think

that number one

we need to try and hold these

politicians accountable

and just to ask them questions and not

just be such

sheep to everything and just you know

let it happen how do we do that i don't

you know i'm not a politician i'm busy

on my day job you know seeing patients

and

writing at night um but

if we don't make some changes i i don't

know i don't know where we go

it worries me that journalists nowadays

ask questions of our

leaders for an answer that would be good

on twitter

or facebook and not you know questions

or answers that

the public really needs to hear that

we're kind of driven now by

a an emotional like

bombshell tweet culture and so

if it's science that's boring because it

doesn't have this

emotional edge to it because it's actual

real science that's helping people

it's not you know driving people to

their deaths or

or creating some kind of political

bombshell then we just don't want to

talk about it

and and i think it's an unfortunate it's

an unfortunate reflection

on an industry that in my opinion

deservedly

has uh its share of skepticism i i

started this youtube channel because i

really care about journalism not because

i hate it but because i was somebody who

really got into the field because i

believed in it not just as a career but

really as a calling

and i don't think that my old industry

is gonna

ever regain trust until it starts taking

responsibility for

its failures and unfortunately a lot of

my peers

are going the other route and just

becoming extra defensive

about how how could the public possibly

think that about us we're just these

hard-working people who are

murdering ourselves every day and i i

have to question in a lot of cases

whether that's

in fact the case and that i hope that we

regain the trust but it won't be by

defending

ourselves as if we're free from blame

you know what you say is true and you

know look

as part of the public when i watch those

press conferences with president trump

look i am

i'm an equal opportunity party

not hater but just a criticizer right i

i couldn't consider myself either part

of either party because they both

have a mess going on and have their

problems and i can criticize them both

better than anybody out there but when i

see the press ask those questions to

president trump who trust me i i wish he

would stop tweeting and

saying his politicizing things as well

but i'm like they're asking these

questions

there's not a question there it's their

personal opinion it's their emotions

they're driving them and you know

they're just trying to get a rise out of

him and

you know they're all in the mud pit

right now sort of slinging mud at each

other and it's

it's that's why we're all frustrated

that's why we're all cynical

that's why we're all you know irritated

and

and pissed off about things

we want a different way and you know i

don't know where it's going to come from

but

you know we need that fourth estate sort

of putting things in check and that's

lost right now

where's the hope then you keep writing

about it i think we could end on that

where's the hope and we'll end there at

least for medicine there's hope out

there

and as you said for your calling in the

journalism my calling was into medicine

i wouldn't change a thing you know my

kids were all upset about this ftc

letter and

you know you know they're going into it

and

um i said to them guys

whatever happens with this even with

this letter whatever happens i wouldn't

change a thing

medicine wasn't is a calling and it's a

good profession and it's an

honorable profession and treating

patients is a

gift beyond giving it's a it's a great

way to earn a living and

i wouldn't change a thing about it um i

i do

think that we can we can change things i

think that um

you know everyone needs everyone first

off everyone can talk

each other a little bit nicer you know

that's one thing everyone doesn't have

to jump down everyone's throw when they

see something they don't like and they

can

keep their tone down and respectfully

disagree with

with each other without raising their

voices and you know

getting personal in their attacks and

perhaps perhaps be able to admit like

what they don't know

i think that's another thing too it's

like you see all these people on

facebook or social media that really are

not experts in the field but act like

they are so i think we all could

just take a step back too and have a

little bit of humility about what we

don't know

of course of course and you know just

tone the rhetoric down so you know when

you're speaking to

somebody you know you know as well as i

know when someone asks you a question

with a tone in their voice or with an

ear you know

they're ready to grab you by the neck

you're going to react to that and so

when i see those reporters to do that to

president trump who

look he gives it right back to him and

he does the same thing to them so i

think that's part of the problem as well

that it doesn't set a good example for

the rest of us and it just agitates the

rest so that

agitates us as a concrete so i think

number one we can start

communicating better and number two we

can start

saying we're not going to put up with

stuff anymore you know we're not going

to put up with

you know things being silenced that

should be silenced you know we do have a

constitution it should be there

for us um you know just because some

bureaucrat writes me a letter doesn't

mean it's right

and um unfortunately that's what i have

to deal with right now but

um you know that's i'm that's where we

are in this world

i think you need to keep putting your

interviews out there and we need

voices of the wilderness speaking and

that's a good thing about the internet i

mean there's good and bad with the

internet but the good thing is people

can

gather more information the public's not

stupid

you know the immediately treat us as if

we're stupid and we you know

they're going to tell us what's right

and what's wrong but you know many times

we can start to read through it when we

get enough information the problem is

getting enough information but

you know that's where we are today

well tell everybody how they can get

more information

on you and what you're doing i'll have

links in the description but where's the

best way to

follow you so something if you want you

know

right now and shut my blog site down

although we've been

investigating how i can start writing

again and

so my website is dr brownstein.com dear

brownstein

just as it sounds

d-r-b-a-r-o-w-n-s-t-ein.com

and i have 15 books out there written

books to you know

basically try and tell people there is

hope out there there are natural things

you can do

to support the body um and you know what

works in my practice and what doesn't

work i write a newsletter national

newsletter

you know i'm doing so i'm doing

interviews now you know

that got my anxiety under control over

this thing and um

you know i will be back writing you know

once i can figure out how

not to get any more letters or problems

from federal agencies

again like you said it's not like you're

necessarily like saying you're the god

of coven 19

and everybody should listen to you it's

just like we should have a conversation

that's what this should all be about and

and you know what honestly dr brown's

scene it's not just your field and coven

19.

there's a lot of topical conversations

right now

where there are just certain things that

people aren't allowed to say

which could be valid points but we have

seen kind of a lockdown because of like

you've heard the

term cancel culture and so it'll be

interesting to see where this goes like

where this leads us uh

because i think it could go a couple of

directions but for the people who are

certainly starting to get

front more and more frustrated i wonder

how that

bubbles up that that actually concerns

me too it's like

you know what are the consequences of of

keeping people

more and more at bay from information

that could be helpful and then growing

and sort of giving fuel to like

legitimate you know you have these

conspiracy theories out there where

people are just like

all kinds of i mean does it just make

people so

paranoid and so skeptical that like you

said they'll follow somebody

off a cliff because they just don't they

don't want to listen anymore

to to what would be conventional because

they it

totally failed them i i don't know we'll

see but

i do appreciate your you're taking the

time to do this and and

and definitely i'll be paying attention

to what happens with your ftc

uh battle and if i can find you a

constitutional attorney i

will send him your way finish by saying

i never said i had a cure for culver

never said any of that i said we're

treating the immune system supporting

the immune system so it can

treat coronary violence that treats all

the other viruses and bacteria where

it's supposed to

neutralize it and help the body get rid

of it and you know

i'll finish with since when did

supporting the immune system become

against the law

you know that's how i feel right now

well and exactly because you know i

actually just saw these articles

like one in cnn for instance quoting dr

fauci saying that obesity

hypertension are all like risk factors

for coping 19 diabetes the cdc says all

this stuff so if

you know you have these mainstream

figures that are regularly being quoted

saying that you're underlying immune

system

and your you know other diseases these

risk factors like

yeah okay so it would make sense just

like with new cancer treatments that

we're finding that when you have

individualized approaches and you're

helping the immune system that your body

can fight back like what's so crazy it

does seem what i've been writing about

for

20 years that you know americans finish

last and nearly every health indicator

according to the world health

organization we're last or next to last

every single one of them covent is a

perfect example of what's wrong with our

country we're we're unhealthy

two-thirds of us are overweight or obese

and we got hit much harder than

other countries because we're so

unhealthy this is exactly what's wrong

and

there's no mention from you know the

powers that be and dr fauci you know

how do how do we get our health back

they're just mentioning put on a mask in

social distance

wait for the vaccine i don't think

that's the way to do it right now when

tens of thousands over a hundred

thousand wasn't died you know

of this is written medically this is

going to be one

ugly autopsy that comes through let me

tell you i agree

and i i will leave people with this if

the goal

is that people survive then we should be

listening

to voices like yours if the goal is

politics

money you know all these other things

then you know what i hate to say it but

it seems like we're going in that

direction if that if that's what this is

about it certainly doesn't seem like

it's about

opening up the table to potential cures

uh or even just treatments that would

give like in your case

robust immune response to it like if

what we're after is that more people

survive so that we can reopen the

economy in a way that helps people get

their jobs back then

then what the way we're going at this to

me as just a thinking person in the

united states

does not make any sense i agree

all right dr bronstein thanks again

thanks for having me again i'm alison

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again i'm really concerned about

censorship in our country right now and

where it's leading us

and the divisiveness among people who

are unwilling to

acknowledge that there are certain

things we don't know and questions we

should be asking

and voices we should be listening to

because of politics or money or

corporate interest or whatever else

so at that i will leave you to ponder

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