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are we allowing people to die
at the altar of politics at the altar
of money and profit for big corporations
are we at the point where we're not
willing to listen to
physicians who people who have been
experts in their field
for decades because they are questioning
the establishment ideology and because
we're not willing to listen to them we
are allowing people to die
the reason that i did this video is
because i am very concerned not just
about censorship by big tech companies
about bias in the media as many of you
know that's my background i was a tv
news reporter for many years
i am very concerned that when it comes
to covid19
that there are potential options out
there for people that we should be
discussing that have been not allowed
at the table because they question the
establishment because
they question the politics and the
nature of the debate about this disease
and because of that we're all suffering
because we are not
allowed to access information that could
potentially be
life-saving for people out there who
need to hear it
this video is not about a cure for covin
19.
this is about a doctor who successfully
treated
patients with covet 19 talking about how
he was silenced
and censored uh by the federal
government dr brownstein could you real
fast just run people through your
background so that they know
your education and how long you've been
in practice so i'm a board-certified
family doctor i've been in practice 28
years
and i've been practicing in a suburb of
detroit west bloomfield michigan
and i started off practicing
conventional medicine for
six months or so and then realized i
didn't wasn't helping my patients
and i searched for a different way to do
things and really switched to holistic
principles right after that and
i've been pretty much doing that for the
last 28
years or so and written numerous books
and articles
and i read a newsletter and see patients
in a
busy office you do holistic
treatments but you are a medical doctor
you have an md went to medical school
you did residency just like
every other medical doctor i'm a
board-certified family doctor
and um i when i use the word holistic i
mean combining
conventional alternative medicine so you
know someone has pneumonia
i use antibiotics but maybe i'll use a
vitamin c
iv or something to help them lessen the
course of the antibiotics they have to
take
and you know use probiotics to support
their gut while they're on the
antibiotic
i use i use conventional therapies um
my goal is to try and figure out how to
help patients you know with their health
and achieve their health
something i wasn't really taught in
medical school but i was taught medical
school was
how to diagnose disease and how to
prescribe the drug to treat that
name that you give them and that kind of
brings us to where
you got into a little bit of hot water i
guess with the ftc
because here you are trying to
find a unique individualized novel
approach to
coven 19 when you had patients that came
down with it
and we're going to get into what
happened i guess a little bit later but
can we first talk about what you did so
you have patients
who test positive for this and um
this also was like back when
we're still kind of i mean we still are
trying to understand this virus but this
was
you know months ago when it was still
very new what did you do
and and tell us a little bit about your
study what you did
how these patients reacted to it you
know came to the us
first announced really in february i
guess um maybe the end of january in the
west coast
um seattle area as you know and
i was following it i was following it
from that first report in china when
they said we have uh
um a typical you know couple patients
with atypical pneumonia we think
is uh uh caused by a now a new virus
that humans haven't been exposed to so i
followed it from the beginning i was
blogging about it writing about it i've
been blogging for 20 years and
i've written 15 books um i read a
newsletter so i'm
i like writing and i like putting my
thoughts out there
and so colvic was coming you know it
hits the west coast first and then you
start to hear reports it's coming you
know
i think chicago might have been next or
something or you know
and you know we knew it was coming so i
had a meeting with my staff at the end
of february
and everyone's on edge
um you know the headlines were we don't
know what to do this is going to be the
next uh
19 what was it 19 i can't remember the
year 19 flew pandemic
18 19 18 19 18 flu pandemic you know
it's here and
you know we're gonna have one to three
million americans dead
um you know with the uh british model
that came out
and so i have a staff that's all
up in arms you know and and anxious
about it and so i had a meeting
after you know or at the end of our week
and i said to them
you know we've been practicing medicine
i've been breaking medicine for 28 years
i said in a few months now so i said the
first 28 years were practiced for this
very thing that's coming
and i said we've been treating influenza
and viral illnesses and
like illnesses um pretty much the same
way for over 25 years as we learn new
things
we might tweak it a little bit but the
formula has been pretty much the same
way
and our patients don't develop pneumonia
from it they don't get hospitalized
anywhere near the numbers that they
should you know you know every year we
have 20 to 80 000 americans dead
from influenza like illnesses according
to the cdc
our patients don't experience that and
anywhere near what the numbers should be
so i said to my staff
i think we we've got a good plan for
this i said i don't know for sure
because we never
treated this but i'm sure we've treated
other coronavirus infections since
they take up 10 to 20 of the influenza
like illnesses that we see every year
and again our patients do well so i
told the staff that you know we're going
to stay open through this
our patients are going to need us i said
my guess is most doctors offices are
going to close
and i'm working and i said
i hope you guys will work with me and if
you don't there's no
consequences to it i said i'm working
until i get sick or they won't let me
and so we started seeing patients and we
were scared we were going out to the
parking lot in march
in michigan remember detroit was a hot
spot with the
jersey detroit and um
maybe massachusetts right at the
beginning and
our hospitals ers were overflowing the
they were worries that the icus were
going to overflow and there wouldn't be
enough ventilators
and patients were dying left and right
the reports were coming fast and furious
if you get hospitalized and you get put
on a ventilator you're going to die from
this thing
so my partners and i were going out to
the parking lot we were
in in march which is cold snowy sleety
icy weather and we're in full gear you
know with face masks and
gowns and things and i remember you know
in the middle of a snowstorm shaking off
my head like i'm a dog trying to get the
snow to come off my face mask so i can
see the veins to put an iv in someone
from their car wow so when we started
doing it
i was scared all right you know my
partners were scared because
you know we didn't know if we were gonna
get sick i have asthma i have severe
scoliosis with lung involvement
i have no immunoglobulin a i'm the worst
candidate to get
you know a new viral illness or any
viral illness and
um so we start treating our patients and
you know lo and behold they responded
just as they have the last 28 years they
got better
and they call us up they can't breathe
they're scared they're dying
you know after a couple of treatments
one iv maybe and you know they've
nebulized hydrogen peroxide and iodine
they can breathe again that was that was
the routine story we were hearing from
our patients one or two
nebulized treatments and some oral
vitamins um
and so i was reporting it and i was
blogging about it and you know i would
do interviews with patients that got
better
and um these were our sickest patients
um
some were hospitalized before they saw
someone at our patients and referred to
us by other
doctors because they started to see my
pumps on it and
the stores were uniformly the same they
couldn't breathe they were worried about
dying and
their doctors are telling them there's
nothing they can do for them well
so we started doing the therapies and
work it was working we kept track told
my partners you keep track of
every patient we treat for this so and
especially when i saw it working after
the first couple so we're gonna write
this up and put this out there
so i was putting these interviews out on
my web page
my blog page and i was the interviewer
to the patient i would just ask them
just they told their story i was just
asking them
keeping them on task with their
questions you know tell me what you did
tell me when did you start to feel
better
you know how did you feel beforehand and
all that stuff and
so lo and behold after about a month of
that
and you know the day before i get a
warning letter from the ftc telling me
to cease and desist
my partner and i were playing tennis
through this whole crisis too
to get our get rid of our anxiety and
keep us sane
so we were driving home from tennis
after treating people
you know all day and going in the
parking lot a few times um doing ivs
i said to him um you know rick i've been
practicing 28 years he's a little bit
older than me
and i said this is the best thing i've
ever done in medicine rick what do you
think and he said
i got 10 more years i knew there's
nothing even comes close to this this is
the best thing we've ever done
and then i said to him you know one of
our death beds
one of us should say to the other one um
it was an honor treating kovic with you
and he looked at me and said absolutely
so the next day i get a letter from the
ftc telling me
that um and they went through all my
blog posts on kovit
especially the interviews and they both
pointed out things patient said and
things i said
and they said i never i never promised a
cure in any of those interviews
i said we were treating our patients who
had covet and they got better
and here's what we did um we were
supporting the immune system never
mentioned a cure for cold but i said
there's no cure vertical
this is this is supporting the immune
system which is really
the only thing that gets people over
called it is they their immune system
neutralizes and gets rid of the virus
that's why we've had
millions of people getting over the
illness so
i get a letter from the ftc telling me
because there's no preventive treatment
or cure for cobalt
because there's no human trial showing
anything you say
that relates to preventive treatment or
cure for covalent exists
you can't say that so you must stop you
have 48 hours to remove it
or else and you're following in
violation of federal code and they list
the federal code
has that ever happened to you before
just curious like with with every other
treatment you've done
anything like that before no nothing so
i i was shocked i get home from work i
didn't you know
i was tired but feeling good we had a
good day
my wife's looking over the computers i
walked in the door i'm like once i look
on your face
and she says you got a little a letter
from the ftc
holding my bags i got my coat on and she
said what does that mean she said
well i think we have to close the
website down you know close your blogs
and you can't do any more of those
interviews and
can't write about coleman anymore my
first commenter was maybe i should maybe
it's time to retire
and she said you're not retiring over
this letter this letter is wrong you
didn't do anything wrong
you're treating your patients as you saw
fit they were getting better you were
reporting it like what you should be
doing
and you want to retire because you're
tired of practicing medicine we'll talk
about that but you're not retiring over
this letter we'll get through this
so that was helpful yeah supportive
we shut the webs we took all the stuff
down for colvin and i titled all those
interviews um there's still hope out
there one two three four i think it was
up in the 20s
you know there's still hope out there
because there's no hope when i was doing
that stuff
it was nothing doctors had nothing to
offer them if they got in the hospital
and got an event they were 88
chance they were going to die well even
even now there's
still not a consensus on hope i i would
say even months later
people are still kind of you know
flailing around in the dark
so i was taught in medical school to
report your findings
report your successes report your
failures report what works report what
doesn't work
so other doctors can learn from your
experience that's what i did
and then i get that letter so i so i was
kind of like when i got the letter i was
in the midst of i was going to write a
study up because i was
our patients were doing well and you
know at that point i got the letter i
just stopped and i stopped for about two
weeks
and i tried to you know gather my senses
get
anxiety under control and figure out
what am i going to do here you know
the first in my family to get a federal
agency after that right and
i'm curious dr bronson when you're
thinking through all of this
is your mind going to could i end up in
jail
i mean where do you where does your mind
take you to worst case scenario if you
continue down the road of treating
people or talking about it
with this letter you should talk to my
wife because i asked her a bunch of
times am i going to jail for this
and um she's a lawyer and um
so yeah my mind went there of course i
looked up the law and there's big
penalties and
potential jail and they can take all
your assets they can
you know it's a federal government right
um it can do a lot to you
so after about two weeks of lumping and
you know letting anxiety get me i
decided i was
you know i decided i didn't do anything
wrong i'm treating my patients as i see
fit that's
what i was trying to do and you know
i've grown up a study and we have 107
patients in the study
um we had one hospitalization 107
patients and
no ventilators no deaths they recovered
much quicker than
the numbers that are out there and
reported that and our study consisted of
using some oral vitamins vitamin a c d
and iodine
nebulized hydrogen peroxide and iodine
and then if they were sicker they got
ivs
hydrogen peroxide vitamin c and
shots of ozone and therapy cost
200 bucks um you know i wrote it up got
a peer review
yep i actually have it on the screen
right now so people and i'll link it in
the description of the video
so people want to look it up for
themselves they can
um you know i i highlighted one part
in your abstract a novel treatment
program combining nutritional and
oxidative therapies was shown to
successfully treat the signs and
symptoms of 100
of 107 patients diagnosed with cover 19.
so you know here you are you have
something that seems to have been pretty
successful and like
nobody wants to hear about it or lots of
people want to hear about it but the
federal government's concerned about you
i mean
to you like as you're thinking through
this and you you say hey 100 of my
patients
responded positively but i'm not allowed
to talk about it that's got to be pretty
frustrating for you
so i published a study and anxiety comes
back to me right away because i figured
great now the government's going to
marshal with resources
against me you know a family doctor um
that lasted a couple of couple days i
let it go so we
went we sent a letter to the ftc the
same gentleman who signed the
warning letter and we said you said in
your letter because there's no human
clinical trials
um um showing what you say works
there's no preventive treatment or cure
for carbon 19 therefore you need to
remove it so we sent a letter we quoted
that out of the letter and said
well we now have a human clinical trial
and here's the trial we attached it
we'd like to post it to our website
without comment
and we got a letter back within 24 hours
saying
no it's not a randomized controlled
trial
therefore you can't do it now in my
study i say the reason we didn't do a
randomized trial was because ethically
and morally
if i would hold a treatment from a
patient that's sick that i think is
going to help them
how the hell am i going to sleep at
night right well i can't do that to my
patients and i wasn't going to do that
hope it was a new treatment
we didn't know what was going to work it
wasn't going to work i'm not going to
withhold anything
that i think might help them just as any
doctor wouldn't and look
the doctors in the hospital were fast as
well too doing their therapies you know
when the patients were dying i'm not
criticizing doctors here but i'm not
doing a randomized trial and not
treating patients with things that i
don't think works that's not who i am
so that's where we are right now with
the ftc
and you know i'm still silent on it and
um but
the positive part of this is i'm writing
a book called the hostic approach to
viruses because i found out
books have first amendment protection
even though i don't yeah it definitely
is a chilling effect i think
on the medical profession and
unfortunately it's not
i don't think getting enough attention
in mainstream media this sort of battle
uh behind the scenes of of medical
professionals who are
trying to get the word out about what's
worked or even just questioning certain
policies
and like for their entire careers have
been looked at
as experts in their field until now and
now it's like all of a sudden
if you question the establishment
narrative
you are thrown to the wayside almost
like this is like salem witch trials
2020. i've
i've never seen it in my lifetime but
granted i'm 38 and i don't really
remember
like sars and mers back 15 years ago so
i'm curious for you
is this the first time in your practice
that you feel like
people like yourself we've seen other
doctors the same things happen to or
kind of blowing the whistle on
say for instance ventilator protocol or
other treatments
who are like looked at as if they're uh
leading people to their death that
they're just completely
they're driving drunk or they're you
know going a hundred miles over the
speed limit like these people are just
reckless when in fact
they actually have something to share uh
have you seen anything like this
in your practicing uh career no there's
nothing like this this is
this is unique um i went through the ftc
list of how many warning letters they
sent i think it's over 300 now
i knew some of the doctors sent warning
letters like they were my friends i
called them
um you know they were shocked
um the you know
i was totally shocked when i got the
warning letter now i've had other
doctors tell me i wasn't shocked you
were out there
saying all this stuff you know i knew
you were gonna they were gonna bring you
in
or come after you might come after me
for what because i'm reporting what i'm
doing in my practice and patients are
getting better i
i was shocked i never thought that would
happen i've read this
you know i've read about other doctors
getting treated like this but
you know i guess it doesn't resonate
with you until that two by four hits you
in the forehead
and then you're you know you're amazed
and confused and trying to figure out
what
what the heck just happened but you know
this coven 19 is a new beast
and um i don't i don't understand why
it's happening i don't understand where
the journalists
are i don't understand why they can't
ask questions why they can't
you know get off the narrative you know
you watch
and it doesn't matter you can watch cnn
you can watch facts you can watch
you know from the left and from the
right these are totally opposite
networks they basically say the same
thing i mean there's a
little little difference in both
networks but you know
where's the was it the fourth estate is
that what the journals are
gonna keep us in track and keep checking
things you know
they've left us high and dry with us
yeah now we've got
now we've got a um you know basically
the narrative has been for copic
wear mask social distance quarantined at
home when we tell you to
and wait for the vaccine right and you
know we spend over nine billion dollars
on a vaccine
i mean you know it's coming i i hope
it's safe and i hope it's effective
but you know what while we've got
you know over 100 thousands right now
maybe there's some other therapies out
there that could help people and maybe
we should investigate them
maybe we should debate it maybe we
should talk about it well yeah and i
think that's that's
exactly the point here and that that's
really the point of this video i hope
people understand that you know one way
or the other i'm not necessarily trying
to push a particular medical treatment
i'm trying to give the voice to somebody
who's found something that's worked
and saying like if we are really honest
about
how new the virus is and that's what you
constantly hear and you will hear that
in mainstream media it's a new virus we
don't know we have to be very careful we
that's why we have to shut down the
economy that's what they'll tell you you
got
you know we can't have we have to have
millions of people out of work because
we just don't know
well if we really don't know then
shouldn't we be allowing lots of variety
of voices at the table it just doesn't
seem to make sense to me that we have
monolithic uh voice you know
in mainstream media or anywhere else in
the medical profession when we're also
admitting that we don't know anything
about the virus so see
things seem to be sort of at odds with
each other
when i get asked and i've done a few
interviews um
when i get asked about it i would say
talk to the patients they'll tell you
you know
they would tell you they were on they
were interviewing like i'm doing with
you i was the interviewee at that point
and you know trying to give people hope
out there that there were things to do
and there is help out there
you just can't hear it through the noise
and you know the whole
hydroxychloroquine
um mess is you know it
epitomizes this too now i didn't use
hydroxychloric when it's part of my
study
so you know what do i say about
hydroxycholine my answer is i don't know
i didn't use it for my study i've used
it for 25 years for other things
it's very safe when it's used
appropriately um do i think we should be
firing er doctors who talk about her
success with hydroxide
airplane
you know what's happened to our country
i find it very odd
and i've i've seen other journalists
thankfully agree with this so i know i'm
not totally crazy
i find it very odd to see journalists
calling for censorship i
i think we're at a place in history
where
there's probably a lot of uh fear
i guess because of the access that now
the public has
to information whereas before like
mainstream media was
the you know beginning and end of your
options for
where you were going to get your
information and now you have youtube
like we're
on right now or other social media
platforms but now you have this
collusion
between media big tech companies
sometimes the government and and they're
kind of
at the rate at which people are able to
access information they're trying to
suppress what they believe
is outside the circle of acceptable
ideology and i will say that like i did
another video on my channel
which just goes to show the hypocrisy
one of my videos was on
uh the protest the economic protests
that people were
engaging in across the country regarding
the shutdowns due to covet 19 saying hey
we should open back up
that was demonetized on my channel as
harmful behavior
those those protests even though i never
heard of anybody getting shot and killed
at those protests they never shut down
you know
entire blocks uh for emergency medical
crews to get through and then a few
weeks later i do
a video on the chas chop in seattle
because we're from the pacific northwest
i drove into seattle to see it for
myself
and that protest was totally fine that
was not youtube did not find that to be
harmful content whatsoever even though
there were several people who were shot
and killed
they had cut off the entire you know
like uh blocks
of the city so it's like even you see on
youtube
one thing that they determined to be uh
you know harmful behavior is it's it's a
protest
it's people to get you know the same
kind of deal this one you know in chess
chop they were all living in the same
space not just there for an hour so
um and that wasn't harmful and so that's
why people start to get very skeptical
and i think it's unfortunate because
like
i i think even the media is trying to
like suppress the skepticism instead of
just admitting that
like hey hang on a second there's
probably reason for
people to to be concerned that they're
not getting the full story here and
that's why i wanted to talk to you
because
here you are like this guy who's trained
just like every other medical doctor
you've tried other treatments that have
worked you're
you're going down a path it's helpful
and hey if what we want is for people to
get better and to survive this
why wouldn't we want to talk to you and
that's to me that's where this all
ends up and that's the greatest concern
for me is that are people needlessly
dying because folks like yourself are
not getting the chance to speak up and i
think that's that's the responsibility
that you were talking about sleeping at
night i think there are people out there
that
should really be wondering if they
should be sleeping at night because they
have been disallowing people like
yourself to the table
it's terrible and you know you missed
you missed a big factor in your
uh started this analysis you said
government
um the media there was a third thing you
said
big tech big tech well big tech you
shouldn't mention big pharma because
big pharma is controlling our
legislatures controlling
the airways they they're more
advertising and all the new shows and
all the shows on tv anyways
and you know they want nothing more than
to have
billions of people on the planet have to
get this vaccine that's going to come
forward
like i said i hope the vaccine is safe
and effective but
until we have a vaccine that's safe and
effective what are we going to do we're
just going to watch people die or
just lock us in our homes and you know
tell us about the mask and social
distance which
you know we've done so well with that
you know
up to now um so i think it's a sad place
we're in
um the um you know
just i'm just disappointed disappointing
the whole country and disappointed
and our leadership from the top to the
bottom
and um everyone seems to have left us at
the altar that's what i think that's
just
you know what's happened to our country
and where we're gonna go from here but
um unless we make a statement that we've
had enough you know you're right about
the skepticism
that's why people are looking elsewhere
um
you know that's why you know forty
percent are going to follow donald
trump president trump off a cliff no
matter what he says because they're
irritated everyone's irritated and you
know
you know perhaps rightfully so because
you know
how do you trust the information that's
coming out there you know i that's what
i've been blogging about that
i went to medical school i was as
straight as an hero i
never took a vitamin in my life before i
became a holistic doctor
i didn't grow up in a holistic household
we went to the doctor we
listened to the doctor we didn't
question the doctor we took what the
doctor prescribed us and that's how i
grew up that's what i wanted to do in
medicine
and then i realized six months into it
these drugs aren't working like i was
taught in med school people
aren't getting better on them there's
got to be a better way out there and
you know these drugs are actually
causing problems even more drugs to
prescribe for those drugs so
how do i support people how do i build
up their health how do i make them
healthier
that's what led me to holistic medicine
and that's what i've been writing about
my newsletter my books you know my blog
posts and
um
you know you know remove it or else
real fast i wanted to take your
attention to the editorial that
uh talks about your study and this is in
science public health policy and the law
uh and i'll have a link again to that if
people want to read it
but they make a good point um
fart it's this is a quote for far too
long
evidence-based medicine has undervalued
and sidelined
real-world clinical evidence which is
rich in detail that can and should
inform decisions at the individual
doctor-patient
level and that's essentially like what
you are offering
i guess to the to the discussion about
how to
deal with coven uh why i guess do you
think and i don't know maybe there's not
an easy answer to this but why do you
think
that in an era and with a virus where
all we really have right now is this
exact
like real-world clinical experiment
right it's like it takes a long time to
do
you know years worth of following people
and research and all that stuff and so
we this is what we need to go with right
now right i mean you would think that
that's that's what we all we have uh why
do you think people are so resistant to
it why is the medical community so
resistant to it why
why why is the media so resistant to it
as far as the medical
community the medical community has
never been easy to
change you know there were stories go
back to several ways from the 1800s
where
he was a doctor who worked at a public
in a private hospital in europe
and in the public hospital women at
childbirth were dying
i don't remember the exact numbers but i
think they told more
than women in the private hospital so we
did a study
and so at the public hospital
the doctors were doing autopsies and
delivering babies
at the private hospital they weren't
doing autopsies so he felt the doctors
were transferring something from the
dead bodies
to the women delivering babies which
made them sick and they died at huge
rates
so he put a bucket of water between the
beds and doctors dunk their hands in the
water
for i believe 60 minutes 60 seconds and
then deliver the babies so they wash
their hands before they deliver the
babies
the maternal sepsis rate went down
to the to the other hospital to the
private hospital
so he wrote an article and said back to
washington before
delivering babies for that heresy
he was thrown out of the medical society
he couldn't practice medicine anymore he
wouldn't
put him in an insane asylum and he died
a broken man so it took doctors 30
to 40 years to wash their hands before
delivering babies and surgeries
you know and during that time they said
it was all nonsense so
medicine has never been easy to change
and but that's why
we have debated medicine and we have
published studies and you publish your
findings
and you can talk about it now that's
slow to go but that's how it goes in
medicine
um you know with this thing this is
different though this is um
you know you're like you said you know
in
trying to publish things you know it's
it's not so easy and
um you know the hydroxychloroquine is a
perfect example of that
and i don't understand why we can't
debate it i don't understand
that you know henry ford hospital in
detroit which is a
conventional conservative organization
publishes a study that's
50 percent less depth with
hydroxychloroquine
when they used it so they just applied
to the fda for use of hydroxychloroquine
and culvert and the fda said don't
i don't understand where this is coming
from i mean this is just
unprecedented and it should stop and
it's
you know unless we the people stay you
know we've had enough and make our
voices heard you know
it's going to keep going it's going to
steamroll us right yeah and how and how
does that happen i mean
it just again like i said earlier in in
our chat
i've seen journalists for the first time
or i guess not the first time but i've
never seen it to this degree
calling for uh lockdown on information
where it's like wait a second i thought
we
i thought we were like the the the
bearers of um
you know the the first amendment that we
were like we were supposed to be calling
for there to be even if
even at the risk that something bad is
said
like to me i like the risk of the good
stuff being withheld is
is is works like i would rather take the
risk that
every once in a while somebody says
something that then okay eventually
arguments
come to the table to to decide hey it's
it's invalid
i'd rather take that risk than the risk
that good stuff never makes it disable
and
not just journalists but scientists i've
talked to like i've seen as i've posted
about
free speech on my other social media
channels
having scientists say you know you're
you yourself as a journalist are doing
harm to the people who come to your
channel who follow you
because you're you're just letting them
read anything
like you're just letting them see any
and here i am like well first off
shouldn't people
get to make decisions for themselves in
the united states of america like
shouldn't we
allow for people to to not necessarily
need us
as the babysitter and then secondly how
can a scientist or a journalist or
somebody in in a field that like you
brought up that study which i
read about because i just had a baby a
few months ago and i remember reading
that exact
that exact case um how do people in a
field that
should know the consequences of calling
for
punishment censorship of new ideas
because there is a long precedent of
that as
a very real danger why why in this case
would they say no
this time we really need to have a
lockdown this time we really need to go
after doctors this time we need to go
after scientists
like didn't we learn from these previous
cases like the one you just brought up
that oftentimes it it the new ideas are
looked at skeptically and then you know
punished and so in in 2020 we shouldn't
be
calling for which trials of people who
are
bringing forth new information about a
virus that frankly we don't know
anything about it's just to me it's
bewildering i do kind of wonder if
everything post-trump has kind of become
this way that
we're we're seeing a politicization of
weird things that before had never been
politicized
uh simply because of the climate we're
in i i don't know i don't have a good
answer but to me the the ultimate danger
is that if
you should be able to seek a treatment
that you want as an adult in the united
states of america and if
you've got something that works for
people you should be able to tell people
about it so they can seek it if they
want it
i would agree with you and um you know
look i didn't start off my medical
career thinking
i was gonna go in a different direction
what i was taught i
thought i was gonna move along that
direction well things change
and things change in medicine every day
and things should change in medicine
every day otherwise
we'd be sitting there bloodletting
everybody for every condition and hoping
that it worked
so you know as far as my colleagues go i
think that
you know i i heard from a lot of doctors
around the country
you know especially in new york and new
jersey or working in those hospitals
when people were dying they were
they were devastated they were they
wanted different therapies they knew
what they were doing wasn't working
they didn't know what to do um so i
think i think that
it's it's it's the problem
we've got right now and i you know i'm
worried for you know the future of our
country and one for my kids
who are you know both in medical school
and one graduated and one's in medical
school
worrying about them just being younger
again you know what's this country going
to do
and when you say how did this happen you
know it happened because
they feared us enough that we were
willing to do anything we were willing
to stay in our houses for three months
whether it worked or not you know it
could be another debate but
you know they made the fear so high that
if you were going to get this disease
you were going to die
there was no therapy offered until we
can come up with a vaccine
therefore you need to do exactly what we
tell you so that's been the message
since the beginning of this illness
and that hasn't changed much well
there's other doctors talking about
hydroxycholic when vitamin a iodine just
you know my study was that stuff you
know
and ozone and hydrogen peroxide um
so how do we change things well i think
that number one
we need to try and hold these
politicians accountable
and just to ask them questions and not
just be such
sheep to everything and just you know
let it happen how do we do that i don't
you know i'm not a politician i'm busy
on my day job you know seeing patients
and
writing at night um but
if we don't make some changes i i don't
know i don't know where we go
it worries me that journalists nowadays
ask questions of our
leaders for an answer that would be good
on twitter
or facebook and not you know questions
or answers that
the public really needs to hear that
we're kind of driven now by
a an emotional like
bombshell tweet culture and so
if it's science that's boring because it
doesn't have this
emotional edge to it because it's actual
real science that's helping people
it's not you know driving people to
their deaths or
or creating some kind of political
bombshell then we just don't want to
talk about it
and and i think it's an unfortunate it's
an unfortunate reflection
on an industry that in my opinion
deservedly
has uh its share of skepticism i i
started this youtube channel because i
really care about journalism not because
i hate it but because i was somebody who
really got into the field because i
believed in it not just as a career but
really as a calling
and i don't think that my old industry
is gonna
ever regain trust until it starts taking
responsibility for
its failures and unfortunately a lot of
my peers
are going the other route and just
becoming extra defensive
about how how could the public possibly
think that about us we're just these
hard-working people who are
murdering ourselves every day and i i
have to question in a lot of cases
whether that's
in fact the case and that i hope that we
regain the trust but it won't be by
defending
ourselves as if we're free from blame
you know what you say is true and you
know look
as part of the public when i watch those
press conferences with president trump
look i am
i'm an equal opportunity party
not hater but just a criticizer right i
i couldn't consider myself either part
of either party because they both
have a mess going on and have their
problems and i can criticize them both
better than anybody out there but when i
see the press ask those questions to
president trump who trust me i i wish he
would stop tweeting and
saying his politicizing things as well
but i'm like they're asking these
questions
there's not a question there it's their
personal opinion it's their emotions
they're driving them and you know
they're just trying to get a rise out of
him and
you know they're all in the mud pit
right now sort of slinging mud at each
other and it's
it's that's why we're all frustrated
that's why we're all cynical
that's why we're all you know irritated
and
and pissed off about things
we want a different way and you know i
don't know where it's going to come from
but
you know we need that fourth estate sort
of putting things in check and that's
lost right now
where's the hope then you keep writing
about it i think we could end on that
where's the hope and we'll end there at
least for medicine there's hope out
there
and as you said for your calling in the
journalism my calling was into medicine
i wouldn't change a thing you know my
kids were all upset about this ftc
letter and
you know you know they're going into it
and
um i said to them guys
whatever happens with this even with
this letter whatever happens i wouldn't
change a thing
medicine wasn't is a calling and it's a
good profession and it's an
honorable profession and treating
patients is a
gift beyond giving it's a it's a great
way to earn a living and
i wouldn't change a thing about it um i
i do
think that we can we can change things i
think that um
you know everyone needs everyone first
off everyone can talk
each other a little bit nicer you know
that's one thing everyone doesn't have
to jump down everyone's throw when they
see something they don't like and they
can
keep their tone down and respectfully
disagree with
with each other without raising their
voices and you know
getting personal in their attacks and
perhaps perhaps be able to admit like
what they don't know
i think that's another thing too it's
like you see all these people on
facebook or social media that really are
not experts in the field but act like
they are so i think we all could
just take a step back too and have a
little bit of humility about what we
don't know
of course of course and you know just
tone the rhetoric down so you know when
you're speaking to
somebody you know you know as well as i
know when someone asks you a question
with a tone in their voice or with an
ear you know
they're ready to grab you by the neck
you're going to react to that and so
when i see those reporters to do that to
president trump who
look he gives it right back to him and
he does the same thing to them so i
think that's part of the problem as well
that it doesn't set a good example for
the rest of us and it just agitates the
rest so that
agitates us as a concrete so i think
number one we can start
communicating better and number two we
can start
saying we're not going to put up with
stuff anymore you know we're not going
to put up with
you know things being silenced that
should be silenced you know we do have a
constitution it should be there
for us um you know just because some
bureaucrat writes me a letter doesn't
mean it's right
and um unfortunately that's what i have
to deal with right now but
um you know that's i'm that's where we
are in this world
i think you need to keep putting your
interviews out there and we need
voices of the wilderness speaking and
that's a good thing about the internet i
mean there's good and bad with the
internet but the good thing is people
can
gather more information the public's not
stupid
you know the immediately treat us as if
we're stupid and we you know
they're going to tell us what's right
and what's wrong but you know many times
we can start to read through it when we
get enough information the problem is
getting enough information but
you know that's where we are today
well tell everybody how they can get
more information
on you and what you're doing i'll have
links in the description but where's the
best way to
follow you so something if you want you
know
right now and shut my blog site down
although we've been
investigating how i can start writing
again and
so my website is dr brownstein.com dear
brownstein
just as it sounds
d-r-b-a-r-o-w-n-s-t-ein.com
and i have 15 books out there written
books to you know
basically try and tell people there is
hope out there there are natural things
you can do
to support the body um and you know what
works in my practice and what doesn't
work i write a newsletter national
newsletter
you know i'm doing so i'm doing
interviews now you know
that got my anxiety under control over
this thing and um
you know i will be back writing you know
once i can figure out how
not to get any more letters or problems
from federal agencies
again like you said it's not like you're
necessarily like saying you're the god
of coven 19
and everybody should listen to you it's
just like we should have a conversation
that's what this should all be about and
and you know what honestly dr brown's
scene it's not just your field and coven
19.
there's a lot of topical conversations
right now
where there are just certain things that
people aren't allowed to say
which could be valid points but we have
seen kind of a lockdown because of like
you've heard the
term cancel culture and so it'll be
interesting to see where this goes like
where this leads us uh
because i think it could go a couple of
directions but for the people who are
certainly starting to get
front more and more frustrated i wonder
how that
bubbles up that that actually concerns
me too it's like
you know what are the consequences of of
keeping people
more and more at bay from information
that could be helpful and then growing
and sort of giving fuel to like
legitimate you know you have these
conspiracy theories out there where
people are just like
all kinds of i mean does it just make
people so
paranoid and so skeptical that like you
said they'll follow somebody
off a cliff because they just don't they
don't want to listen anymore
to to what would be conventional because
they it
totally failed them i i don't know we'll
see but
i do appreciate your you're taking the
time to do this and and
and definitely i'll be paying attention
to what happens with your ftc
uh battle and if i can find you a
constitutional attorney i
will send him your way finish by saying
i never said i had a cure for culver
never said any of that i said we're
treating the immune system supporting
the immune system so it can
treat coronary violence that treats all
the other viruses and bacteria where
it's supposed to
neutralize it and help the body get rid
of it and you know
i'll finish with since when did
supporting the immune system become
against the law
you know that's how i feel right now
well and exactly because you know i
actually just saw these articles
like one in cnn for instance quoting dr
fauci saying that obesity
hypertension are all like risk factors
for coping 19 diabetes the cdc says all
this stuff so if
you know you have these mainstream
figures that are regularly being quoted
saying that you're underlying immune
system
and your you know other diseases these
risk factors like
yeah okay so it would make sense just
like with new cancer treatments that
we're finding that when you have
individualized approaches and you're
helping the immune system that your body
can fight back like what's so crazy it
does seem what i've been writing about
for
20 years that you know americans finish
last and nearly every health indicator
according to the world health
organization we're last or next to last
every single one of them covent is a
perfect example of what's wrong with our
country we're we're unhealthy
two-thirds of us are overweight or obese
and we got hit much harder than
other countries because we're so
unhealthy this is exactly what's wrong
and
there's no mention from you know the
powers that be and dr fauci you know
how do how do we get our health back
they're just mentioning put on a mask in
social distance
wait for the vaccine i don't think
that's the way to do it right now when
tens of thousands over a hundred
thousand wasn't died you know
of this is written medically this is
going to be one
ugly autopsy that comes through let me
tell you i agree
and i i will leave people with this if
the goal
is that people survive then we should be
listening
to voices like yours if the goal is
politics
money you know all these other things
then you know what i hate to say it but
it seems like we're going in that
direction if that if that's what this is
about it certainly doesn't seem like
it's about
opening up the table to potential cures
uh or even just treatments that would
give like in your case
robust immune response to it like if
what we're after is that more people
survive so that we can reopen the
economy in a way that helps people get
their jobs back then
then what the way we're going at this to
me as just a thinking person in the
united states
does not make any sense i agree
all right dr bronstein thanks again
thanks for having me again i'm alison
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again i'm really concerned about
censorship in our country right now and
where it's leading us
and the divisiveness among people who
are unwilling to
acknowledge that there are certain
things we don't know and questions we
should be asking
and voices we should be listening to
because of politics or money or
corporate interest or whatever else
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